Posts by rebelfighter

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The Christian GOD / Old Testament GOD , one and the same right? A GOD of Love ?

by smiddy in

and god is the same today as he was yesterday and will be the same tomorrow.. in other words he is unchangeable.. what a bloodthirsty god he was in the old testament., at his command killing old men young men women and children by the sword , a two edged sword i might add in some cases.cutting both ways.. put yourself in that situation for a minute , either as a victim or the executioner.

can you imagine piercing some other human with a two edged sword ?

especially if they were a child ?

rebelfighter

Cofty,

I prefer as Perry says we have choices. Also we have come a very long way in the medical community many people survive cancer today because of cancer research had my cancer occurred 20 years earlier the survival rate was far less. We still have a long way to go but we have made tremendous progress in curing some forms of cancer.

I will also point out the progress we have made in bringing babies into this world. Thirty-five years ago because I had a doctor who was not doing his job and paying close enough attention to my health, I delivered a baby who only weighed 1 1/2 lbs he did not live. Eighteen months ago I was blessed with the sweetest little granddaughter who only weighed 1 1/2 lbs. The difference was her mom was in total distress and the doctor took the baby from her nearly 3 months early and allowed the NICE finish the process. Now both my grand babies have a healthy mom and both children are doing extremely well. The Medical community has advanced a long way. All those things you listed hopefully maybe the next generation will solve.

Just look at life expectancy over the years it just keeps getting longer.

And most definitely I always look for the positive in every situation even the worst situation has got to have something positive about it. The worst situation also has a humous element somewhere to make you laugh. When you think about the negative you will become depressed which in turn can make you physically unhealthy. Always look for the good that comes out of any event or situation.

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The Christian GOD / Old Testament GOD , one and the same right? A GOD of Love ?

by smiddy in

and god is the same today as he was yesterday and will be the same tomorrow.. in other words he is unchangeable.. what a bloodthirsty god he was in the old testament., at his command killing old men young men women and children by the sword , a two edged sword i might add in some cases.cutting both ways.. put yourself in that situation for a minute , either as a victim or the executioner.

can you imagine piercing some other human with a two edged sword ?

especially if they were a child ?

rebelfighter

I am saying my cancer was caused by humans who buried ammunition in the ground on a hill. This hill everytime it rained the rain water allowed lead to flow down into our drinking water supply. We did not know this. I had no clue my water was contaminated, I worked from home, I drink or did at the time lots of coffee, the government lied about the lead content. BUT, who is to blame human put ammo in ground, human decided where to place that reservoir in Washington DC, human (me) decided where to live - God did not make any of those decisions. I am not saying you personally are the cause for your cancer but us as a human race are responsible for causing a lot of these cancers. Like asbestos who knew when they developed that what the future would hold, now we know. It is like all this plastic everything come in today quite frankly it scares the hell out of me. In say 30 years we may know the truth.

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The Christian GOD / Old Testament GOD , one and the same right? A GOD of Love ?

by smiddy in

and god is the same today as he was yesterday and will be the same tomorrow.. in other words he is unchangeable.. what a bloodthirsty god he was in the old testament., at his command killing old men young men women and children by the sword , a two edged sword i might add in some cases.cutting both ways.. put yourself in that situation for a minute , either as a victim or the executioner.

can you imagine piercing some other human with a two edged sword ?

especially if they were a child ?

rebelfighter

Cofty,

It is not callous at all, I am very pained and hurt when people are hurt by natural disasters and I go out of my way to lend assistance. I just get very angry when they blame God.

I have had enough pain throughout my life with an abusive mother, husband, losing my first son, having a lot of money stolen from me and having 2 children with learning disabilities who I raised on my own through college. BUT not once did I blame God, I leaned on God for support to get me through the tough times in my life and we walked and talked.

I am not callous, I will give my last dollar for a kid in need any day, I will fight a mighty fight for any bodies child. I have fought some powerful people over refusing to give kids I barely knew what they deserved.

You buddy just called the wrong person callous.

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The Christian GOD / Old Testament GOD , one and the same right? A GOD of Love ?

by smiddy in

and god is the same today as he was yesterday and will be the same tomorrow.. in other words he is unchangeable.. what a bloodthirsty god he was in the old testament., at his command killing old men young men women and children by the sword , a two edged sword i might add in some cases.cutting both ways.. put yourself in that situation for a minute , either as a victim or the executioner.

can you imagine piercing some other human with a two edged sword ?

especially if they were a child ?

rebelfighter

I tend to put things in very simple terms with that said why is everything God's fault?

Humans built cities on earthquake fault lines and near a volcano then blame God for the loss of life - God did not put those cities there.

When someone gets cancer they blame God for allowing it to happen but instead of asking the real question why did this person get cancer? It actually took 5 years for me to get the actual answer to the why I got cancer and the reason wasn't God it dated all the way back to the Civil War and they buried ammunition in an area which would allow lead to filter into our drinking water thus there was an unusually high rate of bladder cancer.

My first son died in child birth, God did not cause this to happen. When I had my records transferred to another doctor "if you take this doctor to court I will testify against him, there is plenty of evidence in your file of negligence ". I lost my son because a doctor was neglegent. God had nothing to do with it.

If you are fair skin common sense tells you to wear sunscreen and proper clothing. I am olive skin, I tan instantly, I have 1 child like me and 1 child who turns red the minute she walks outside so she wears all the sunscreen possible. Just common sense.

Do not eat poisonous plants, don't build a city next to a volcano, etc if you do - when something happens - hey folks - God did not do that you did it SO don't blame him for your stupidity.

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The Christian GOD / Old Testament GOD , one and the same right? A GOD of Love ?

by smiddy in

and god is the same today as he was yesterday and will be the same tomorrow.. in other words he is unchangeable.. what a bloodthirsty god he was in the old testament., at his command killing old men young men women and children by the sword , a two edged sword i might add in some cases.cutting both ways.. put yourself in that situation for a minute , either as a victim or the executioner.

can you imagine piercing some other human with a two edged sword ?

especially if they were a child ?

rebelfighter

Never a JW but since I left religion but still strongly believe in God. I thought a lot about religion and have to ask if God had created Religion how many would there be? Who wrote the Bible? Is that truly God's stories or are they men wanting us to believe what they want us to believe? Just imagine how many wars would have been avoided had all these religions been 1.

I truly believe God wants us to love one another and to care for each other through charity work. He created a very beautiful earth for us to take care of and enjoy.

God created all of us equal no matter our race, sex, gender preference, age we should be treat each other with love and kindness.

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There seems to be many jw's marrying outside of org recently.

by atomant in

l was wondering if others have noticed this or is just my imagination?my sister whom has always been a fine example of a dub just got married to an outsider was a shock to everyone as no one knew she was dating an outsider.she seems happy.the elders are to shit scared of her to approach her about the matter.

rebelfighter

I agree 100% with Outsiderlookingin. When you are totally in the dark as to all the crazy JW rules and only given the real basics like we do not believe in the cross and birthdays and holidays. Then lead into what spears to be a wonderful relationship with what appears the sweetest kindest man for 5 years until he gives you the booklet on Families. You start asking questions about his religious beliefs and you get no explanation nothing but an email short to the point. "Good bye have a nice life."

Yes you are spot on about these people dating outside their religion and that crappy thing called Theocratic warfare is nothing but flat out lying. Now that I look back he did a hell of a lot of that.

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Child Abuse In This Weeks Meeting Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i was sitting at the meeting this week and the "apply yourself to the field ministry" part started.

it was the first part under, "the initial call".

they read from the "good news" brochure and ask a question on it.

rebelfighter

The 2 special pioneers who came to my door just before the Memorial seemed absolutely clueless when I mentioned the ARC and went into full details about the hearing. One even asked is this something you read in the media, no I watched the entire hearing live on the Internet including Geoffrey Jackson lie repeatedly after taking an oath on the Bible to tell the truth. They just said they were sure it was apostate lies. I asked if they would look any of the information I gave them they would look up the answer was no they do not trust anything that comes from the internet. When I mentioned all the court cases they said those were apostate lies.

Grrrrrrr

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JW-Facts--Here is that Circuit Assembly Financial Report Form you wanted!

by Atlantis in

our "spy" was able to get in and get out undetected.

we thank him/her for their kindness and courage.

remarks were made that the assembly this person attended only kept the women in their place.. i remarked to this person that one of these days the watchtower is going to "put down" the wrong woman who is going to clean their clock with a massive discrimination lawsuit!.

rebelfighter

Freddo,

Thanks I needed that. The Fighter in my name is what the "Elder" said I did in his final email but he was right, I do fight everything I disagree with but I always do it legally and make sure I have plenty of evidence. I do not walk away from any challenges.

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JW-Facts--Here is that Circuit Assembly Financial Report Form you wanted!

by Atlantis in

our "spy" was able to get in and get out undetected.

we thank him/her for their kindness and courage.

remarks were made that the assembly this person attended only kept the women in their place.. i remarked to this person that one of these days the watchtower is going to "put down" the wrong woman who is going to clean their clock with a massive discrimination lawsuit!.

rebelfighter

Atlantis,

Remarks were made that the assembly this person attended only kept the women in their place.

I remarked to this person that one of these days the Watchtower is going to "put down" the wrong woman who is going to clean their clock with a massive discrimination lawsuit!

It is a mighty good thing the "Elder" never converted me! I did ask him several times what is the role of the women in the KH funny how that question always got the same answer OH they have their responsibilities and instantly the subject would get changed to a whole other topic like the weather or something.

Now here is my track record along those lines and as far as men asserting their power over women it is not to pretty. One employer I got 2 District Manager demoted to store manager and 3 store managers fired. My best was the last company I work for before going into business for myself. I had a staff of 15, I was over all of the accounting department, payroll department, cash management and project grant management. I had this position for 8 years. One day they hired a MAN for the huge personnel office with a staff of one and half employees. Now of course his paperwork had to come through my office so he could get a paycheck and he is earning $20,000 more then me.

That paperwork, a leave slip and I were in my boss' office in less then 10 minutes, he instantly called his boss and we were in his office. The big guy said he has a family to support and you belong at home with your new baby and women should be barefoot and pregnant. Did not say it but dude you just said the wrong thing to the mighty wrong woman. My boss and I walked out of his office he changed my leave slip to give me a week off with pay and said keep me informed as to how it is going with the lawyer and I won't tell a sole. Then when I had not showed up for a couple of days the big boss started putting pressure on my boss wanting to know what I was up to. I gave him permission through my lawyer that we were filing a law suit. Their lawyer drafted a contract giving me a very nice settlement with a heavy gag order. I responded that I would sign only if the gag order was altered to say I had the right to discuss this contract with my lawyer and my tax accountant. They changed the contract, all parties signed, I got my money it cleared the bank. Everyone was happy. I ran to my lawyer's office and tax accountant's office and shared the document. OOPS!! Did I forget to tell someone both were on their Board of Trustees. Guess who got fired? The General Manager. And I got enough money to start my own business.

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I finally understood the final hurdle...

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

well the "pious" elders tuned out to be " super pious" and very good at reciting from the " very super pious" elders manuel, but actually " super pious" elders are quite harmless when ignored.. as for my former friends in the congregation, well throughout the ages there have always been people prepared to stand up for truth and friendship, sadly my " former" friends from the congregation proved not to be people of such noble character, instead only capable of giving short contrived speeches about why they missed me at meetings, snooze, and no great loss, as i have found the community outside the w.t organisation positively buzzing with unconditional friendship.. anyway i feel i have overcome all hurdles in my exit from the " w.t" except one,which is how i deal with my disrespectful father.

even when i was a witness in good standing, he had a pretty disrespectful and rude word power, now it's completely inappropriate.

i have tried pointing this out, even had long periods without contact, but i don't like doing that as it denies my mum seeing her grandson.. however what i have concluded is that this isn't w.t at fault.

rebelfighter

Rebel,

It was my mother I avoided. Starting at the age of 12 I learned to not go home till certain cars pulled up in front of our home then I knew she would not beat me up or cuss me out. Later in life one of that I will never forget, like I could never be good enough for her - I owned my Financial Accounting firm, she looked at me and said you need to go get a real job. I just not refrain myself, I just busted out laughing and walked away. I had 2 kids in private school, a maid, a mtg payment more then most people make and a husband who sat at home and did nothing SO obviously what I was doing was not REAL but it paid for all this.

Now my sister, the princess, who sat at home all day watching TV could do no wrong she was just the most perfect thing that ever walked this earth. Like my mother neither of them would know how to tell you a truthful statement if their life depended on it.

I supported these two people financial for many years. For years I could never ever figure out why my mother treated my sister like a princess and put up all the lying. She never trusted a word I said and I would never lie to her and when she was sick and in need - yeap you guessed in which one was there for her certainly not the princess.

At the age of 62, I finally found out why she hated me so much. I never needed my birth certificate until I moved to a new state. The name I grew up as was not me. My dad was not my dad. She was not married when she had me. Obviously she took it out on me my entire life.